Priestess Satanika interviews friend (H.A.) about the JoS

Okay ^^
   1. How did you discover JoS, and how did you feel about them?

--When I first discovered JoS I was searching for information on a demon that I wanted to invoke. Back then I never really explored the website, it only came up when I would search for certain things.

   2. Upon seeing the website, did you notice their claims on Nazism? If so, how did that make you feel?

--I didn't know anything of that till I had met a few satanist that followed that belief. It was new to me. I only did a little research on until some people started sending me things about aliens/greys. It was different to me because it went against everything I had studied in satanism. I could understand not liking the Jewish belief but I cant understand hating Jewish people.

   3. Did you ever try to talk to these people? If so, how did they treat you?

--Attacked. Most satanist know what it feels like to be misunderstood or constantly attacked and after I was attacked for not believing in the same beliefs of another satanist, it was almost confusing.

   4. Why do you feel they attacked you for having different beliefs? Did it throw you off your feet?

--The second you become a satanist everything starts to change, you are constantly learning new and valuable things, so your beliefs are constantly changing. I feel like the JoS followers are basically taught to have one belief, only that belief and that everything else is wrong. Rather than having your own experiences, they are taught to trust in someone else's. I really think that's why they feel the need to attack when someone else has a different opinion.

   5. Lastly, what advice would you give upon people just stumbling across the JoS ways?

--Most of it is just copied and pasted, so don't just rely on one resource...The best way to learn is from your own experiences.

Priestess Satanica interviews friend (R.K.) about the JoS Followers 10/14/15

Okay,
   1. What behaviors did you exhibit in the JoS followers? They all seem to blame shift and deny evidence, did you find this to be true?

--The JOS followers were mostly negative, doing nothing and only spreading hate to not only Jews, but also Christians or people that disagreed with them. What I particularly disliked about discussions, was that they would deny evidence and say 'it is corrupted by Jews', which, of course, they had no evidence of.

   2. When you spoke with these people, how did they treat you when you stated ideas or Facts within the Theistic Satanism community?

--When I stated ideas, I was mostly cut off with a simple 'shut up', or my ideas were brushed off with the statements that it was corrupted. I also got kicked out later for my discussions and got called a Jew and antisatan.

3. Why do you believe they wouldn't listen to you, or be open as Theistic/Spiritual Satanism is about?

--Because they are scared to shift away from the ideas of Joyofsatan. I could swear I have seen that Maxine threatened people on the forums, that unless they follow orders, Satan is not going to welcome them in the afterlife. Also, they have a set path they follow, and they are scared they would be lost with nothing to do without it.

4. So in other words, they are sheep, no? Can you explain - did they seem more afraid or ignorant of your ideas, and the True Theistic ways?

--Yes, they do sort of seem to me as sheep. They were ignorant of my ideas and the ideas of theistic satanism, because they were so persuaded by their beliefs. Also, I wouldnt say 'true', because everyone has their own path and should do research to find what is best for them. Then, yet again, I think we can all agree on the fact that a high being like Satan would not be so full of hate on an ethnic.

Very true, there is no "true path".
5. When talking to or confronting these people, how did they treat you? It seems they like to believe they are better and more knowledgeable than others? Do you believe this stems from Maxine or Andrea Herrington?

--These people were confronting, always saying how I was the one with the insecurities, because they needed to throw blame at someone for their own insecurities. I have also asked some of them why they were hating me, they replied: "I dont know, Im just following the others" . As for where it comes from, I have no idea. It could be from the groups and forums, where they consider themselves to be over everyone else.

6. Due to their lack of free will and a free mind, do you think they are particularly brainwased into Maxine's trap? When confronted by people in the Satanic community who are Spiritual, Theistic, or traditional Satanists, they backlash with blame shifting, and reverse Christianity techniques used by Christians themselves, why do you think this is?

--I think this is because the joyofsatan website is the first experience they have with satanism. Maxine funds this website and it is quite popular, I have also found it in some of viral videos on youtube. The problem with jos is that they state facts about spirituality, like power meditations etc. People then try to meditate and then they are like " Holy cow, this actually works!"

And that gets them stuck into this fact accepting pit, like at school. They presume everything handed to them from tht source is correct, like at school we dont question what we are being learned.

7. Mostly teens are targeted by this in fact. In Theistic Satanism we are encouraged to research, why do you believe they lack these proper Occult tools?

--Because if they researched, maybe they would find out that actually what they follow is extremist and based on little truths about satanism.

High Priest Tiklos & Priestess Satanika - JoS and it's Leader Maxine 10/14/15

High Priest Tiklos & Priestess Satanika - JoS and it's Leader Maxine, interview #2

Okay, first question
   1. What do you feel JoS represents to both Andrea, and the follower? (Trying to get opinions other than my own)

-- The the early (fresh) follower, it represents an active answer to Satanism. Providing an alternative to Luciferianism as well as LaVeyan Satanism. It gives the hope when it introduces meditations and craft practices, which give the fresh follower hope that they can be great witches and even greater Gods... 

The more adept followers see through the bullshit of false hope, and are more drawn into the Hatred of Jews and other races. They are the ones who've "Heiled Hitler" long before finding Joy of Satan.

To Andrea, it represents a ministry in which she can run into many sheep. Instead of a Christian approach, she takes the opposite route.  She damns "God" and "Jesus" repeatedly and curses Jews and None-Joy of Satan followers because she knows that scientifically, if she does this a lot, the mind of the reader will bend her way.  It represents a Pay-Check for her and a way to fund her husbands desires of raping underage children.

   2. Tell me about the scandal she went under fire when she supposedly "freed the Goetic demons with sex". To you veleive the claims of Child molestation are true?

--As a general rule, any case of "Molestation" that involves either her, or her husband are true.

According to every Goetic Demon (all 72 of them) Sex does not free them from anything, as they are not trapped anywhere. They remain in their Own Realms where they are the most powerful.  You cannot free a being that is already free. Besides, sex pacts with certain Demons (because only a small portion will even consider it) are rare and considered the lowest of the low.  She teaches Satanism is about Ascension to Godhood, but revels in the carnal lusts of the flesh. Why worry about the flesh when you're working to obtain Godhood?

Good question.
   3. It looks like she mixes LaVeyan roots with reversed Christianity, and claims Jews are Satan's enemy - using psychology and hatred. Is there any evidence to suggest Satanism was ever about hating Jews before she came onto the scene, and would you consider her to be Spiritual or truly Theistic at all?

--There is no evidence that Satanism is about hate, period. No matter their religion, nationality, or anything. She not only mixes LaVeyan with Reverse Christianity, but she also mixes the Americanized version of Adolf Hitler and the American Neo-Nazi beliefs into Satanism.  Everyone with a brain knows that Hitler was a Devout Catholic, he even admitted it. but she hides this little tidbit, and when people bring it up, she labels them "Infidel" and "Traitor"  and blasts them so badly to her egroup that no one will listen.

Just neither spiritual nor theistic, she is still that atheist who came to me wanting to learn, she just used that knowledge to herd the sheep in and get money.

   4. She even claims that the SS and Death Hats practiced pagan rituals, and praised Satan,  and completely denys that Hitler cf a used the death of millions of Jews, why do you believe she claims these things - to suck in teens, and add more false credit to her stories?

--Oh definitely.. The SS, Luftwaffe, so-called "Death Hats" (which don't exist in History)  we're all Christian followers. As far as the claims of the Occult that Hitler was rumored to have taken part in, all rumor.. meant to demonize Hitler and the Nazi Party to Westerners.

   5. You claim she was an atheist when you first met her who called Theistic Satanism bullshit, why is this, and why do you think she was so igborants as to claim she is Spiritual to thousands of teens?

--Every Preacher claims they are the most faithful when they start a Ministry, but ultimately all they want is the vast amounts of money handed over by the gullible.

No religion is immune to these types of Predators, not even Satanism. Andrea is just another Predator out to feed upon the wallets of the Sheep.  She's no more spiritual than my coffee cup.

Atheists see religion and spirituality as crocks, as bullshit.. Crazy people claiming wild things  that cannot be proven.. She still believes this, she just sees that there are more people, especially teens and repressed people such as Africans, who will give anything to rebel against the oppression that is Christianity. If they feel as though they have ANY power over their oppressors whatsoever, then they will pay millions to obtain that power. Andrea sees this weakness in humankind and she, like many other false prophets, seeks to exploit it.

6. Why do you believe she is atheist? It seems even through her bull, she is very devout. Couldn't she just be a fanatic?

--Asides from the fact that most Atheist rarely ever change to adopt a faith, her approach and presentation... All other faiths and paths (of even Satanism) are false and don't exist.. Only her exact path is true.. Anyone who studies or even cracks open a single book knows that one specific method isn't the ONLY method... As the saying goes; There's more than one way to skin a cat.

All she does is promote her merchandise, there is no conviction there, to a trained eye of course.

Interview about JoS

High Priest Tiklos & Priestess Satanika - JoS and it's Leader Maxine

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1. Would you mind telling me about Maxine or Andrea for my site?

-- When I first met her, she was an atheist, interested in LaVey's Satanism, and "Conjuring demons" I found out later that the "Conjuring demons" part was so she can fulfill a fantasy about having sex with a demon and being pregnant with it's child... something about the reversal of God>Mary =Jesus..

2. Yes, I've noticed this myself. What did she tell you about the demon impregnating thing, since LaVeyan is Atheistic? It seems she was young, and perhaps had a mental disorder or misguided information?

-- She was a typical seeker... You find out that LaVeyan is Atheistic after you've studied it for a bit.. No one really knows automatically that it is atheistic.. As for the impregnation thing, I found it out later that night, but I did tell her that while sex with demons are a possibility, a pregnancy from that interaction is not. As it does not occur in the physical realm.

3. I agree with you for the demon sex, because I'm sure I've done it myself, either in my mind cause I'm nuts, or it:s real. How exactly did she elaborate on the demon impregnation? Was their a goal, or idea in mind?

-- That was the goal.. She wanted to have the Anti-Jesus.

4. Weird bahaha. Tell me about her husband, Do you know if he believes in their so-called Satanism?

-- No, he's not spiritual nor religious, he believes in one being, Furher Adolf Hitler.

5. Same as JoS, and her ideas. Do you belive her scheme to attract - particularly young people was for personal progression and gain? if so, why?

-- Her scheme is to attract the dumbest of the dumb.. She gives enough factual information for those who are a bit smarter than the rest for when they research, but her ultimate goal is to have donators, and lots of them. All the websites she has referenced on the JoS site are her's, she created them, she set them up to match her ideals and sermons.

6. Why do you thinks she tries to tell people that her "Satanism" is the only real one, and to not research, or belive other sites?

-- For the same reason that all religions say theirs is the only true religion. Believe without Question. Psychologically, it's a sound reasoning. Humans, when told something is true and is the only way, flock to the statement. She does it to cover her ass, and she expects those who can think for themselves to call her out.. She rallies the masses against those people by calling them "Jews" or "Infiltrators".

7. Exactly! Some claim even that she  has no magical powers, or has never summoned a demon, and even she does it for attention, do you think these are also true?

-- She does it to encourage others to use her methods.. She has no greater power than anyone else. As for doing for attention? Absolutely.

8. When you said her husband looks to Hitler, did he tell you why?

-- He hates Jews, and everyone who is not white - but, especially Jews.

9. Why do you think he married Andrea - who's half Native herself?

-- For the sex.. She was the only one who was interested in him.. (He's not a good looking guy by any means) and she's not native, of any degree. She has claimed Native blood to make it seem that she is not racist.

-- -- For the sex.. She was the only one who was interested in him.. (He's not a good looking guy by any means) and she's not native, of any degree. She has claimed Native blood to make it seem that she is not racist.

10. So, she is white?

-- Yeah, She's so white, she makes my ancestors hurt.

11. How did you teach Andrea the Goetia?

-- Asides from lectures, I also hold classes on Ceremonial Magick - She attended the Ars Goetia Class. Listed her "magickal name" as Maxine Dietrich, but her legal name as Andrea Herrington. She was actually one of the three to be present throughout the entire class.. and that was every other day for 2 months.

12. The ways she twist information, and steals others work without their permission - why hasn't she been punished for it yet?

-- Because she has been low-key.. As soon as her site and works get blown into the wide public, she'll be investigated and if someone presses charges against her, she will be punished.. Fortunately for her, majority of the authors she stole from, are dead.

13. That's why then. It seems she loves to elaborate on Indian Buddhist ideas for meditation and such - chakras, kundalini, ect. Why do you think she would use such stuff in her site?

-- Mysticism. The "mysteries" and mysticism behind Hindi practices create an aura of realism and magic to them. She uses these practices to give an activity to what you can only achieve with your inner mind. She believes by introducing practices that aren't really well known in the Western World, and are already shrouded with "mystery" (simply because westerners can't fathom anything deeper than what's presented to them) that the practices will add a level of realism to it. Even though Chakra, Kundalini, and tantric Meditations didn't become known until the 60's, at least in the Western World, it was only used in junction with finding calm and peace, not with communing with spiritual elements.

14. When looking at her site, and the Goetic demons she represents with their information, and supposed asscets such as candle color, planet, not using the Solomen's information,  where do you suppose she gets this information?  Because I've seen a double post once that had completely different information on it.

-- She rips this information off of other writers. Every writer has their own idea of what color candle should represent. This is why we really have to research our crafts. We have to try and probably fail at our castings.. The plethora of information on the net and in stores, and we're still no closer than the origins of the Craft were. I digress..  She is not reading what she is posting, and neither are her web-masters that are helping her. They are just copying and pasting where they think it should go... There is no research involved, not even on a small scale.

15. Agreed. She also uses the Necronomican as well, do you personally think it has any Satanic value or use?

-- No. The Necronomicon is an excellent occult book, especially for he, since it contains roughly the same amount of truth as her site holds.  She tries to convince her followers that Marduk Kurios, Son of Enki is the true "Satan"... which if you take the story behind Satan, and the story of Marduk, they are different. Marduk did not oppose the Creator Gods, he opposed the enemies of the Creator Gods. If their belief of Satan being the creator of the Universe, then according to the Necronomicon and the Enuma Elish, Tiamat, the Chaos Dragon should be Satan. BUT.. Just as H.P. Lovecraft was in it for the thrills, so is Herrington.. She doesn't care what she posts, as long as it get her traffic.
Especially for her*
I have one of the original Necronomicon Occult Grimoires, and I have read every version of it, plus I followed the Mesopotamian way for years... There are no meditations in it.

16. Where do you personally think Satan is, or where he came from?

-- Satan is Hebrew. It means Enemy, or Opposer/Adversary. The Hebrew People worshiped and revered the Israeli God, so therefore anyone or thing that went against the Israeli God was "Satan". For a while the common unbeliever was "Satan", however that never made an impact. According to the Bible, Eve would be considered Satan, for she went against the orders of God and took the fruit.
   I personally think that "Satan" is whomever you want it to be. Any one who can assist you in rising against the mental slavery (and physical slavery) that is of worshiping Yahweh. As for where he came from? Us. We labeled him, we created the meaning. We gave him life and purpose, we gave him power. All things he originally gave us.

17. So Satan is just Hebrew of nature then?

-- I would think so.. At the very least, the word is.
I personally see "Satan" as Lucifer. The Angel who spoke against the tyranny of Yahweh. The one who rose against Yahweh when he order Lucifer and his other Angels to destroy us.  Lucifer, following the original Angelic Commandment, went against Yahweh to follow that Commandment... "Love them, as you love Me".

18. Since you know about the subject of YAHWEH,  why does Andrea claim it to be a created if Jews and reptilians Lol, same as before?

-- Reptilians are alien beings who are supposed derived of some human dna. They are aliens who are to have serpent DNA to kill off humanity, and can shape shift. Lol

-- So, again, Bat-shit Crazy. A far too deep look into the book "Lost Book of Enki".... almost the entire subject matter of the book, if I recall correctly.

19. I believe in the lost tablets, that we may have been created by them - since there's no way of for sure knowing. But, I personally don't think Satan's Enki. Do you think JoS used this because he (Enki) helped create humans?

-- I think JoS is using it because of the amount of belief in it from others. Majority of her followers believe the same thing, so she includes it just to get them to think she's on to something. It's odd too, because the whole reptilian thing doesn't fit in with the rest of the site.. Even reading about it feels so (forgive the pun) Alien... Especially when you look at the rest of the subject matter.

20. Strange! Again, it just all boils down to Nazism and money lol

-- It all comes down to the money. There is a lot of money in Religion.. She really has no concern about Satanism or even Religion itself of any degree, she just wants the money.

21. Do you personally think Andrea is a Satanist?

-- No. I think - spiritually- she is still an atheist.. However she is an opportunist.